Anyway it was just a thought. The actors are not slaves to the fans or public opinion. Actually, the production team is not helping either. As soon as she was, they should have rewritten Tilly from being a cadet to being a lieutenant or something. Find more stories on theStar Trek Universe. The audience is growing due to our amazing loyalty, but I give them credit toobecause Discovery, we have all these new shows. should take a pear of pruning shears and cut off that little pecker of yours (its what Killy would do). (laughs). I have only heard of the details a few months ago thanks to a video that TrekCentral (amazing YouTube channel) made about it for Prodigy theorizing a connection. Whether you choose to believe it or not, youre actually part of the problem. It is not OK to be overweight. There is a wealth of other outlets for health and fitness information, that frankly are more dispassionate and factual than getting health and fitness info from celebrities. Harry wasnt annoying. She isnt back on Discovery. All Access Star Trek Podcast, Discovery, DS9, Lower Decks, Section 31, Star Trek 4, Star Trek: Picard, Star Trek: Prodigy, Strange New Worlds. Not sure what her weight has to do with anything. You two are Michaels boyfriend and best friend, so does Michael becoming captain create any new tension in season four? Its intolerance in its most basic form, and anyone who engages in, advocates for, or turns a blind eye and deaf ear to it are examples of the worst humanity has to offer, and most certainly have no business calling themselves a Star Trek fan. Mary Wiseman is confirmed to return as Sylvia Tilly in Star Trek: Discovery season 5, although whether she rejoins the crew or continues at Starfleet Academy and only interjects occasionally remains unknown. Ive re-learned through life experiences how to stop and smell the roses again you might say, among other things. Then maybe I would actually remember his name! If Tilly needed to pick up a phaser or be physically active then that means the Discovery is in some serious shit, with it either having been boarded and their entire security personnel neutralised, or with Tilly separated from the ship, most like due to its destruction. I would expect more from the Star Trek crowd, which is usually quite enlightened. And, in that sense, it is okay to be used as it was above. It would definitely be great if Rhys was promoted to first officer. Bad, character pandering types of writing, with over-emotional children in the roles of astronaut-scientist-soldiers. Wiseman would be smart to ignore the haters because their posts are rooted in negativity and hate. And no one in their right mind would play poker with her. You had a variety of body shapes on discovery Tilly was thick. Mary Wiseman has established herself as a talented actor on Star Trek: Discovery. Paradise was most likely referring to the shows production and creative teams. 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I find her character interesting, but inconsistent. Or are you only a troll if you criticize something about Discovery? Correct me if I am wrong, but did she not have to take a command course at some point? Such use is more overt in DISCO, but it is by no means out of the ordinary. This post (handouts bad habits yada yada yada) is your latest misogny, homophobia and white supremacy , and I am sick and tired of it. I have this image in my head of the EPs saying to Mack that theyd like species that havent been main characters in other shows and asking him to give a list of options for a big and strong species, a species without a bianary gender etc. Just when it looks like the character has finally grown as a person and doing her own thing, comes right back. Sisko on the other hand. Internationally, the series is available on Paramount+ in Australia, Latin America and the Nordics, and on Pluto TV in Austria, France, Germany . In the season four finale Coming Home, Mary Wiseman returned as Lt. Tilly, now a Starfleet Academy leader working with cadets and Admiral Vance to coordinate the evacuation and defense of Earth on Federation HQ. I cant spoil anything into season five, except to say that we love Tilly. I think the character would have been much better served if Tillys quirks were something that changed as the character grew over the seasons. Shes one of the shows most divisive characters. Mary Wiseman: I wish there maybe in the future theres room for some protective best friend/boyfriend energy. Good points. So her appearances ended up not being 100% awful. Anyway, another Discovery-ism, amongst the many other weird decisions on this show. Im sorry youve had to experience that and I strongly urge you to take what comfort you can from whatever source you can, regardless of how other people feel about that source. Unless you want to count Ezri Dax she was a therapist but I dont believe she heald a high ranking command position. From what Ive read, having her on the bridge because of her betazed abilities was what Roddenberry had in mind. American actress Mary Wiseman payed several smaller roles in the past but recently gained a big recognition as Cadet Sylvia Tilly in new iteration of Star Trek franchise called Star trek: Discovery. Plenty of curvy ladies are quite healthy and active. I wasnt complaining there were therapists on board. What do you mean? As long as Wesley Crusher exists she will always be in a race for that title. Actress Mary Wiseman did a series of media . I for one have always had to watch my weight and I still wage the battle to this day. Where I live people compete on the merits and are proud of their professional or intellectual achievements not their bad habits, bad health or even born with attributes such as divergent sexual orientation that they had no influence over whatsoever. This was her character and then had perhaps one or two incidents where she became a little more focused and then off screen came back a different person. But because of Discovery we have Lower Decks, Picard, Prodigy, Strange New Worlds, Short Treks, possibly Section 31 and the Academy show. Personally I dont find that inspiring in any way whatsoever. Is her awkwardness all that different from Ezri on DS9? I would prefer to finish the rest of Prodigy first season instead. Thats undeniable. Then that very well could be something for not just women but everyone to aspire towards. And I just let the writers take me on a journey. Cant believe some fans complain about character A or B or C. I am sorry, but the obsessive complaining about Sonequa/Michael or Mary/Tilly, for who they are, is so rude. It's mostly the super-hero genre where you see this. Nah Book is Boba Fett and I want to see the spin-off series THE BOOK OF BOOK :-). The Trek Collective has a flowchart for the Litverse which is helpful. Thank you, Trek Movie Staff, for sharing my interview with your readers and providing a link to Forbes.com! IMHO, if she usually eats well, trains and commits to staying healthy, then life can be a lot of fun leading an active adventurous life while still enjoying food and fine dining and it is irrelevant what people say about her looks. Every character aboard that ship represents a minority. Sorry TM, its MY fault! I just dont remember if it was something I read years ago or if it was in an interview with Gene. And doesnt that just make the point about the difference between fitness and apparent chunkiness or curveyness. And I belong., After reading the Forbes article, Wiseman got some backup from someone who knows what its like to be a woman in the captains chair: Kate Mulgrew, who thinks Mary is killing it on Discovery and should pay the haters no mind., I saw the @Forbes article on Mary Wiseman @may_wise clearly killing it onscreen & off in #StarTrekDiscovery. It just happened. Those b@stards, however, totally killed Landry )Cuddles with @actordougjones and @davbentom These men are nothing short of hereoic in prosthetics all day e'reday. If I was a public figure I would do zero social media, ignore the internet, cash my massive paychecks, sign autographs for real in-person fans I meet, and be so thankful Im not working in a grunt job making minimum wage. Sonequa Martin-Green in Unification III, Co-showrunner Michelle Paradise shared some behind-the-scenes photos from Terra Firma, Part 2.. This sounds kind of racist. I like me. I saw someone just last month asking on a Facebook fanpage if Starfleet had some kind of physical fitness standard and if so, shes violating it, ect.the same old idiotic abusive misogyny disguised as genuine concern. So smart in the Starfleet tradition. David Ajala: Yeah. The burden is now on SNWThat show can either make or break it with regards to these issues. No character like her would ever have graduated Starfleet. Star Trek: Discovery streams exclusively on CBS All Access in the United States and is distributed concurrently by CBS Studios . The show will roll out on Paramount Plus in the US, and is expected to stream on Netflix elsewhere. He also has emotional intelligence. I would imagine those who liked Barclay probably include a large portion of those who like Tilly. They basically wrote her off the show! Sick and tired of T and A being the main focus. The reason why Troi was on the bridge all the timewas that she was a betazoid. I see other people mentioning the books on Reddit and Youtube because of the new show obviously. Therefore, I love her. but it looks like she did simply did it because she was her friend and room mate. Janeway is bridge crew, of course she was coming back! Its all pretty subjective. Have to disagree. Ichebs torture on Picard was horrible and the eating ganglia in S1, yikes! Me thinks that your issue is not that fans of nu trek are pandered to to feel better about themselves. However, Tilly's rise to Lieutenant in Thursday's episode of Star Trek: Discovery did not invoke feelings of joy. But it looks like TG47 answered your question! Ive never liked Tilly. No, from Starfleets POV its 3 years. In this week's episode of Star Trek: Discovery season four, we saw Tilly leaving her crew and heading to the academy in order to foster young minds. So when very capable people feel un-capable, crazy things happen. Mary Wiseman: Right, when you use empathy for evil, its manipulation. For your own good, please seek help. Tilly is not a perfect officer. Thematic darkness is fine but graphic visuals arent. There have been moments where they tried to do that, but like everything else on Discovery where self-doubt and emotional scenes of worry in darkly-lit rooms need to be front and center, they always seemed to bring Tilly back to spazzing out because she was nervous about whether she can do it before being put on a mission. Some folks here like this nu trek because it lowered standards to make them feel better about themselves. Jerks. All are different. And I know Chakotay was also Captain on Voyager in those books as well. It feels too 21st century specific as does Tillys. David, has Michael becoming captain changed Books relationship with her? Ive seen fan-fics with better characters than this. American actress Mary Wiseman was born on July 30, 1985. Fans need to stop being rude and act like gentlemen for once. It was a novelty in his first story and they turned it on its head when he got zapped and made super-smart, but most of the time hes very trying, especially when he gets thrown onto Voyager. Its very likely shell be on the Star Fleet Academy show if she continues as a regular/recurring character on a Trek show. Make better choices. She wrote ten books based around this concept and still writing them. Also the writers, Erika Lipoldt and Bo Yeon Kim. As I said Tilly has the same issues. Someone with a lack of intelligence throws a race card at every debate. Fortunately, more than 30 years ago I was encouraged to focus on the health aspects of eating well and training hard and not the aesthetics. And Im even more embarrassed by this, but Ive never watched any of the Stargate shows. Events in David Macks two books towards the end of that series ( A Time to Kill and A Time to Heal) have a profound impact throughout the rest of the Litverse. At New York Comic Con, TrekMovie participated in some group interviews with members of the cast and crew,. Everybody loves is an idiom, it should never be taken as a strict statement. I dont see a repeated notion that DISCO saved Trek by heavily incorporating emotion into their characters. Keep up with all the news and reviews from the newStar Trek Universe on TV at TrekMovie.com. Sylvia Tilly was an ambitious female Human Starfleet officer who lived during the mid- 23rd century. Just blows my mind. If they wont act a woman should take a pear of pruning shears and cut off that little pecker of yours (its what Killy would do). Just mentioning few of their values. I have nothing against Mary Wiseman. I define me. She cant control her weight. New episodes of Star Trek: Discovery premiere on Thursdays on CBS All Access in the U.S. and on CTV Sci-Fi Channel in Canada, where it's also available to stream on Crave. After all, it DOES seem as though Tilly is gone from the crew for the time being. I hope Mary Wiseman is okay or has a good reason for her weight gain since S1. the only one worth saving.. quite possibly the most irritating character in Trek history. Weight gain from thyroid issues, anti depressants, steroids, is a fairly small percent of the population. As someone with severe and sometimes crippling anxiety whos managed to have a pretty successful high-pressure career, I question your assertion that she never would have graduated Starfleet., You clearly never served in a military environment. The writing for him is trying in season 1, but from Samaritan Snare onwards I actually think hes kinda endearing and has decent utility. Season four of Star Trek: Discovery arrives on Thursday, November 18 on Paramount+. She hasnt mentored anyone except in one episode. A Stitch in Time kicks off the Garak/Cardassian books and is excellent. This show has disrespected the actress with poor development and no real storyline except oh hey, im awkward guys. By: TrekMovie.com Staff Have to completely agree you T2. This is not a good show and not a good Star Trek Show too. There are a number of places you can receive professional help and I strongly recommend you seek that help. As a Black girl, I felt I was supposed to look this way. However, I do struggle with popular media normalizing unhealthy weights whether over or underweight because they are health risks. I want to really like Discovery, I do. No one can argue that Shatner is anything less than fit at whatever age. Proceed accordingly. Now if it turns out, Burnham was being influenced by an alien entity or she has been given insight into the future which made it imperative that she rush Tilly into becoming the Number One, then I can accept it. Well, the entire point is she absolutely looks the way I expect her to. Maybe not but what are your thoughts? We have no information that Beyer consults in this show. I dont think Tilly is ruined. I gave this dumpster fire of far left propaganda 4 seasons. I absolutely love Tilly/Killy. Its not celebrating obesity to say that her body is her business and nobody elses. You know what, fvck you, Vulcan Soul. This time, even if I wanted that, my body said: no were going to take some time here, we need to heal. And so, I find myself in this bigger, fuller body and it made me appreciate where I was before. Given all the trouble the crew got into, Im sure they needed one on the ship. For me, DS9 was the best Star Trek Show for character development. You mentioned that the rest of world laughs at America because of obesity. Heaven forefend women feel good about themselves! I would just be happy if Rhys got more than three lines an episode lol. Look at the progression of Nog on DS9 from Quarks juvenile-delinquent nephew in season 1 to Starfleet Ensign in the Dominion War on how writers can make you believe in a characters growth and progression. By existing? Yes, she was a therapist that say patients in her office but her betazoid abilities aided Picard. Discovery may have just said goodbye to one of its crew, but don't worry: She'll be back. If there had been a believable logical progression from Cadet Tilly in season 1 to Starfleet Academy instructor in season 4, where they had built up the character to where she shed bits and pieces of the awkwardness as she became more confident in her abilities. But was it not made pretty clear that Counselors had become a regular thing on command crews in the TNG era?
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